Page comments http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/home/ Comment by 'Mitchell Spector' on Time Out for Some 8-bit Fun, IIGS Style http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8686 Alex: In the 25 years since I upgraded from a ROM 01 to a ROM 3, I've yet to find a single piece of 8-bit software that has compatibility issues, so let's scratch that. :) In fact, GOOD NEWS, I figured out the problem and got FastBoot running on my ROM 3! The system file was corrupt (I downloaded a new copy of FastBoot and installed that). Not sure if the corruption is from the original image or something that happened on my end, but it could explain Justin's difficulties. So now that I have FastBoot running, audio sounds as it should (no distortions) and I can quickly and easily jump from program to program. Awesome, I haven't played some of these since I was 12 years old! I have noticed some of the images won't start (particularly the "disk based" images) and some hang if you try and quit back to FastBoot via the CDA menu. Maybe more tinkering is needed? Wed, 10 Dec 2014 05:03:01 +0200 Mitchell Spector http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8686 Comment by 'Alex Lee' on Time Out for Some 8-bit Fun, IIGS Style http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8685 Justin: Have you got a fully loaded System 6.0.1? i.e. with lots of system extensions? It's possible that's interfering with DOS 3.3 Launcher working properly. Try a shift boot, temporarily turning off extensions to see if that helps. Try multiple different games. Mitch: Hmmm...my guess is still a ROM03 issue. Don't have time to check it under emulation right now (as I don't have a real ROM03 machine on hand, but if you can check it on a ROM01 either real or emulated, try that. Sat, 06 Dec 2014 03:11:31 +0200 Alex Lee http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8685 Comment by 'Mitchell Spector' on Time Out for Some 8-bit Fun, IIGS Style http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8684 Hi Alex - ROM 3, but how often do you run into 8-bit software that doesn't work on the ROM 3. As a matter of fact, the ROM 3 is more compatible with 8-bit software than the ROM 01. Maybe the copy I have is corrupt or not configured correctly? At any rate, seems I have the opposite issue of everyone else. The games launch just fine from GS/OS, but crashes if I try to launch from ProDOS 8. I'd much prefer the ProDOS 8 route, much faster switching in and out of games and no sound distortions. I'd love to get this working, let me know if you have any suggestions. Thu, 04 Dec 2014 00:17:05 +0200 Mitchell Spector http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8684 Comment by 'Justin Sevakis' on Time Out for Some 8-bit Fun, IIGS Style http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8683 Hi Alex. Every time I launch a Dos 3.3 file, GS/OS launches the Dos 3.3 Launcher, and then crashes to the monitor. Oddly, I can launch my own Dos 3.3 files just fine, and the ones on your disk image launch just fine if I only run them from ProDOS 8. Weird. Wed, 03 Dec 2014 09:58:51 +0200 Justin Sevakis http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8683 Comment by 'Alex Lee' on Time Out for Some 8-bit Fun, IIGS Style http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8681 Heya Justin, What happens exactly when they fail to run from GS/OS? Is the Finder looking for the DOS 3.3 Launcher executable? Or something else? Sat, 29 Nov 2014 06:02:28 +0200 Alex Lee http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8681 Comment by 'Justin Sevakis' on Time Out for Some 8-bit Fun, IIGS Style http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8679 Huh, strange. All of these games fail when launched from GS/OS, but work just fine if I boot off the volume. At any rate, great collection, thanks! Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:36:06 +0200 Justin Sevakis http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8679 Comment by 'Alex Lee' on Time Out for Some 8-bit Fun, IIGS Style http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8678 Hey Mitch, are you using this 8-bit games image on a ROM01 or ROM03 IIGS? It's possible FastBoot doesn't work with ROM03 machines. I haven't had any issues running it on my ROM01. Mon, 24 Nov 2014 00:48:49 +0200 Alex Lee http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8678 Comment by 'Mitchell Spector' on Time Out for Some 8-bit Fun, IIGS Style http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8665 Awesome! I remember tinkering with DOS 3.3 Launcher when it first came out (in fact it still resides in the bowels of my GS hardrive somewhere) but back then only had the patience to convert over about 10 or less physical disks. Well, just downloaded that image partition to my real GS and thrilled at all the games to check out--without digging through hundreds of 5.25 floppies! And wow, some of these I literally haven't played in 30 years and had forgotten about! (seriously, it was 1984 when I got my first Apple II). No luck with FastBoot if it's the file labeled "Boot.system". It immediately crashes into Monitor, even if launched directly from ProDOS 8. Would prefer that for speed over the Finder when quitting out of games... And speaking of that, there's one major pet peeve I had with DOS 3.3 Launcher via the IIGS Finder. Music and sound are distorted if launched through GS/OS. Garbled and low pitched. Try listening to the opening tune in Canyon Climber for example. The only workaround, of course, is to start DOS 3.3 Launcher directly from ProDOS 8. Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:46:20 +0200 Mitchell Spector http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8665 Comment by 'Sean Fahey' on Time Out for Some 8-bit Fun, IIGS Style http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8650 brilliant! Sun, 12 Oct 2014 22:26:46 +0200 Sean Fahey http://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/time-out-for-some-8-bit-fun-iigs-style/#PageComment_8650