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			<title>Re: Can one use a IIc / IIe Joystick on a IIGS?</title>
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			<description>There's really only two flavors of Apple II joysticks (II/II+ joysticks or IIe/IIc/IIc+/IIGS joysticks) though apart from the connector-type, they're more or less identical. There was never such a thing as a GS-specific joystick.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you plug a II/II+ joystick into the GS's motherboard, remember its direction is reversed (the tail end of the joystick faces the keyboard). I twice blew the ADB micro controller on my ROM 01 motherboard plugging in the (metal) joystick from my Apple II+, so I wouldn't really suggest it if you already have D-style one that plugs into the rear.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you're talking about the official Apple-made &quot;IIe/IIc Joystick&quot;, the buttons going south on it was a common problem. My brother's GS had one and we were forced to play all our games with one hand on the keyboard (never had much luck with joystick buttons, I remember the chip that registered button-1 presses on my II+ clone board kept blowing out!). The fix for the Apple joystick was opening it up and soldering in replacement button switches, although I thought I saw something recently about an easier fix with just simple cleaning. If you can find one, the CH Products Mach III was a really nice alternative to the Apple joystick.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Can one use a IIc / IIe Joystick on a IIGS? &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/show/249?start=0#post314&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/reply/249?start=0#post314&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:47:29 +0200</pubDate>
			<author>Mitchell Spector</author>
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			<title>Re: Can one use a IIc / IIe Joystick on a IIGS?</title>
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			<description>I'm not an electronics expert, and can't provide any advice on how it might be fixed. With one of my broken joystick buttons, I gave the stick to a friend of mine handy with a soldering iron, but I don't believe he wasn't able to fix it. Or if he did, the fix didn't seem to last long. But that was a long time ago, and my memory isn't what is once was.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't know what a SCSI extender is either! It's not as simple as simply giving another SCSI port, that you can daisy chain more devices through is it?
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;By all means, read the instructions for best scanning in expansion cards and upload via You Can Help:
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/you-can-help/#expansion_card&quot;&gt;http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/you-can-help/#expansion_card&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Alex&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Can one use a IIc / IIe Joystick on a IIGS? &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/show/249?start=0#post255&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/reply/249?start=0#post255&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:54:17 +0200</pubDate>
			<author>Alex Lee</author>
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			<title>Re: Can one use a IIc / IIe Joystick on a IIGS?</title>
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			<description>Thanks for the quick response man!!
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I see!  &lt;img src='https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/sapphire/images/smilies/sad.gif'&gt;  
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dang it, so I have to find another stick huh? I wonder execatly what's broken though... The buttons seem pretty tight, and click pretty nicely.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I opened it up last night, just to see if it was something as stupid as a disconnect wire inside, it wasn't, but I did notice that one of the leads on each button is connect to each other through a capacitor, could that go and make it not work? HUmmmm, gotta break out the muiltimeter!! I'd have to know the value of the capacitor though... 
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Think I could find any info about it?
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;PS&amp;gt; Also, as an unrelated comment....
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've been coming to this site for a while now, since before you guys had a message board. It's awesome that somebody is doing this!! I have a card at home, noting &quot;sexy&quot;, it's a SCSI extention card? That's what it says in the box anyhow, although I'm not quite sure I understand what a SCSI entention is.... At any rate, if you would like I could take a picture of it (I even have the box, like I said) and send it yor way  &lt;img src='https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/sapphire/images/smilies/smile.gif'&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Can one use a IIc / IIe Joystick on a IIGS? &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/show/249?start=0#post253&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/reply/249?start=0#post253&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:13:59 +0200</pubDate>
			<author>marvio</author>
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			<title>Re: Can one use a IIc / IIe Joystick on a IIGS?</title>
			<link>https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/show/249?start=0#post251</link>
			<description>One most certainly can use a IIe/IIc joystick for the IIGS. In fact, it's only kind of joystick available for the IIGS.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I went through MANY joysticks back in the day (maybe half a dozen!) and the most common problem was that one or both of the buttons would stop working. Quite often I'd stick the joystick down to the desk with blu-tack, use the stick with my right hand and substitute the buttons with the open-apple/command and option keys on the keyboard.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Solution, or what?  &lt;img src='https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/sapphire/images/smilies/smile.gif'&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Alex&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Can one use a IIc / IIe Joystick on a IIGS? &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/show/249?start=0#post251&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/reply/249?start=0#post251&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:05:17 +0200</pubDate>
			<author>Alex Lee</author>
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			<title>Can one use a IIc / IIe Joystick on a IIGS?</title>
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			<description>IT would seem it should work, right? But unless this stick I have is broken, the answer is no?
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This was a boxed stick which is marked for a IIC/IIE , the directional controls work fine, it's just that the fire buttons don't. I guess I could fire up my IIC and test it that way. But it's more fun this way  &lt;img src='https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/sapphire/images/smilies/smile.gif'&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Do they have different pinouts for the fire buttons on the IIC and IIgs?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted to: Can one use a IIc / IIe Joystick on a IIGS? &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/show/249#post249&quot;&gt;Show Thread&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/hardware-forum/show/249#post249&quot;&gt;Post Reply&lt;/a&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:13:48 +0200</pubDate>
			<author>marvio</author>
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